Throughout Half 2 of Kailyn’s dialog with Elliott on her Barely Well-known podcast, the 15-year-old revealed that his “ex-friend” was the primary particular person he informed was homosexual, claiming he then outed him to their complete class.

“Your non-public life popping out was robbed from you, after which your public popping out was additionally robbed from you,” Kailyn mentioned, referring to how her son’s sexuality was “leaked” on-line earlier than he might deal with it publicly.

Elliott agreed along with his mother, earlier than then sharing that he first got here out to a then-friend means again within the fifth grade.

“The primary particular person I informed was an ex-friend of mine, and he didn’t take it properly,” he recalled. “I informed him, and he went to our entire class and informed everybody. This was in fifth grade, thoughts you.”

“From me, as a fifth grader, it harm me, as a result of I constructed up the braveness to let you know one thing, and also you took it and sort of ruined that for me,” he added.

Whereas Elliott and Kailyn acknowledged that the boy was so younger that he possibly “did not perceive the capability” of somebody popping out to him.

“No one has that maturity stage at that age,” Elliot mentioned, “For me to comprehend it at the moment, it is exhausting to sort of discover the those who perceive.”

“I believe that was the toughest half,” he added.

Elliott then recalled how he wrote a letter to his ex-friend on the time — and it did not go unnoticed by his instructor.

“I wrote him a bit of letter out of anger … and my substitute instructor was studying the observe as I used to be writing it, and pulled me to the aspect, and was like, ‘Why are you scripting this? Who’re you scripting this to?’”

He mentioned it turned a “entire state of affairs,” and so they needed to go communicate to the steerage counselor. The incident in the end led to his mother and his dad, Jo Rivera, discovering out.

“Jo went and picked up Isaac from college, and referred to as me and informed me concerning the observe, and also you have been within the again seat,” Kailyn informed Elliott, “and your dad despatched me a photograph of the observe, and I laughed. I assumed it was humorous.”

Elliott laughed on the reminiscence, earlier than Kailyn revealed what her then-fifth-grade son shared within the letter. “I used to be like, ‘He ought to suck a d–k,’” the fact star mentioned, once more noting that she discovered the whole state of affairs to be “humorous.”

“I additionally already knew you have been homosexual, so I did not give a f–k,’” she continued. “I used to be identical to, ‘How dare him.’ Clearly, I used to be upset {that a} child did that to you, however clearly, now, I am like, ‘Effectively, he was in fifth grade. Youngsters do not perceive the burden of what they’re doing.’”

The mother of seven admitted that she was “upset” on the time as a result of Elliott along with his dad proper after it occurred, and he or she wasn’t with him.

“I might think about that that was most likely a time the place you felt type of misplaced and did not actually know the place to go since you did not know, ‘Am I getting in bother for the observe? Am I homosexual? Am I not homosexual? Do I’ve the assist of my dad? And now my dad has to inform my mother, is my mother going to react the identical means?’” Kailyn mentioned.

“So it was most likely a really complicated, emotionally charged time,” she continued, including, “I believe you have been searching for validation and to know that every little thing was going to be okay, and I do not essentially really feel such as you obtained that.”

“I did not,” Elliott confirmed, telling his mother, “but it surely wasn’t your fault.”

He shared that a lot of his anxiousness got here from figuring out the incident occurred on the finish of the varsity yr, and he wasn’t positive “what to anticipate” when college began once more.

“I used to be simply so terrified to see what that regarded like,” Elliott mentioned.

Sadly, the teenager mentioned that sixth grade turned out to be the “worst yr” for him.

“[I] didn’t have any actual buddies,” he mentioned, earlier than noting that whereas his popping out “possibly” performed a component in that, he felt that he “did not have a spot” at school. “I did not actually know myself, so it was exhausting to slot in with a bunch of individuals, so I believe that additionally ties in with it,” Elliott added.

Elliott and Kailyn went on to share how different kin reacted to his popping out, together with his grandmother.

“I like my grandma to loss of life … however I did not love how she sort of introduced faith into it,” Elliott recalled of his grandmother’s response. “It was simply very odd to me.”

He mentioned his grandma requested him about his “beliefs,” to which he mentioned that he is not “actually non secular,” but she “introduced God into the state of affairs.”

“I simply thought it wasn’t crucial and wasn’t associated,” Elliott mentioned. “She additionally sort of talked about … I should not inform those who I am homosexual as a result of I do not know who I’m but.”

“She mentioned it very subtly. Like, it wasn’t direct, however that is what she mentioned,” he added.

When Kaitlyn requested if he needed to “create a brand new relationship” along with his grandmother, Elliott mentioned, “Type of. I believe it was simply sort of a setback.”

Whereas on the time he felt that he “would not speak” to his grandma about his sexuality, now that he is older, he believes their communication might be extra open.

“I am nonetheless homosexual,” he mentioned, to which Kailyn laughed. “I believe she realizes now that I’m who I’m, and that is not gonna change. So I believe it is okay now. She will not try this anymore. However, I believe on the time, it was simply exhausting for her. She did not know the right way to strategy it.”

Nonetheless, Elliott mentioned it was “very awkward” earlier than his grandmother “might come to phrases” along with his sexuality. “I believe it simply wanted time,” he added.

The episode ended with Elliott expressing his gratitude towards Kailyn for his assist.

“Do not cry, please,” he prefaced, showing to get choked up himself, earlier than telling his mother. “I simply need you to know, and I do not need you to ever doubt that, as a lot as you like me unconditionally, I like you unconditionally.”

“You may have been my guiding star by this entire factor, all through my entire life even, and I’m without end grateful for you. And I am unable to see one other world with out you,” Elliott continued.

The 2 continued to cry and chortle, with Elliott jokingly telling his mother, “I will textual content you once you’re useless.”

On a critical observe, Kailyn sweetly assured her son that he would not need to thank her for something.

“I like you unconditionally as a result of that’s my job,” she mentioned, to which Elliott famous that his mother takes the “additional step.”

“You make me really feel higher about myself, and who I’m,” he mentioned.

Within the first a part of the dialog, which was launched final Friday, Elliott got here out and introduced that he had modified his identify from Issac to Elliott, which was his center identify.

“Comfortable Delight, everyone! I am very nervous for this episode,” he started. “I am right here at this time to indicate you who I’m, not who you noticed on TV for 12 years of my life.”

“It is essential to me as a result of I really feel like rising up on TV, it is exhausting to indicate who you actually are when a digital camera is in entrance of you on a regular basis. It is nearly like you’ve a TV face. It is tougher to be your self and to be extra snug,” the teenager shared.

“I need to be clear that that is for me. Let me have my second. I am actually sick of individuals arising with their very own tales and placing issues in their very own phrases and issues popping out on different folks’s phrases about me,” he added, “as a result of my life is not leisure for different folks.”

Along with Elliott, Kailyn additionally shares son Lincoln, 11, with ex Javi Marroquin; sons Lux, 7, and Creed, 4, with ex Chris Lopez; and son Rio, 2, and twins Verse and Valley, whom she welcomed in late 2023, with fiancé Elijah Scott.